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Offline [NL] Marc van Erp

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New clicking system drawing.
« on: October 03, 2012, 12:57:47 PM »
Dear train family,

In the attachment you will find the new clicking system drawing.

With Kind regards,

Marc van Erp
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Offline [NL] Marc van Erp

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 02:34:11 PM »
Sorry i sended the wrong drawing here is the new drawing of the clicking system.

with kind regards,

Marc van Erp
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Offline [FR] Nicolas Prime

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 11:06:43 PM »
Dear Marc
Could please also send to us the 3D model (.STEP) of the clicking system ?
Thanks in advance.

Offline [NL] Kevin Vogels

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New clicking system program
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 11:37:57 AM »
Dear Train familie,

The G codes for the clicking system are finaly here!
If something isn't working properly contact me.

Yours,

Kevin Vogels
The Netherlands
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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 03:16:10 PM »
dear train family,

I forgot to tell about the holes on de sides. you have to drill them however you like. its not in the program.

yours,
Kevin Vogels

Offline [FR] Nicolas Prime

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 03:19:32 PM »
In this attachment you will find the .STEP file

Greetz.

Marc

I'm maybe wrong but it seems that this is not the correct 3D file at least not the 3D file of the "new clicking system.pdf". Could you explain to me:
Which part am I supposed to produce ?
How does "clicking" works (balls, spring... how and where ?) ?

I'm now a little bit confused with clicking system...

Thanks in advance for pieces of informations.

Nicolas.

PS: could you please erase post with wrong datas ?

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 02:11:07 AM »
Hello Marc,

Also in my opinion something is wrong with the posted STEP file.
The "quick and dirty" assembly drawing enclosed shows the problem.
The STEP file doesn't match to the pdf. Could you please check?

And as Nicolas wrote I also need to say that it is not really clear where and how the system clicks.
Maybe it's possible for you to provide us with a general assembly drawing?
That would be great ...

Thanks a lot!

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« Last Edit: October 24, 2012, 05:19:13 PM by [DE] Heinz Wildgrube »

Offline [NL] Marc van Erp

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 12:59:47 PM »
Hello Heinz,

Sorry i had sended the wrong .step file in this attachment you wil find the right one. I was bussy with more things so from my quickness i had sended the wrong one.

But the clicking system works as follow:

In the axel desing they have made an hole where a linkin-pin is comming in. In the clicking system we have made a hole where the bullit of the linkin-pin will click-in. If you put the clicking system on the undercarriage the bullit of the linkin-pin fitt into the clicking system.

If you dont understand it i will send information of the linkin-pin.

greetz.

Marc van Erp
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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 01:14:08 PM »
Hello Marc,

Thanks for your answer and the correct drawing :)

I get more and more an idea how the clicking system works ...

Do you mean something like a ball plunger (see attached picture)?
Would be nice, if you could send us a drawing or a specification of the "linking-pin" you have in mind.
Does this part has a DIN number? What diameter? What lenght?
How is the "linking-pin" fixed? Counter screw/nut? Clue?

More details would be helpful to understand ...

Thanks a lot!

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« Last Edit: October 24, 2012, 01:39:13 PM by [DE] Heinz Wildgrube »

Offline [NL] Marc van Erp

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 02:49:02 PM »
Hello Heinz,

In the attachment you will find the linking-pin that we will use.

I hope you will understand it now.

Greetz.

Marc van Erp
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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 03:20:31 PM »
Hello Marc,

Okay, that's the same part I had in mind in my posting above  8)

But there is another question we need to discuss:
As far as I see we need to adjust the two "linking-pins" and we need to fix them.
Otherwise I fear that we will loose the position very fast and the system will not work properly.

Do you agree with me?

So the question will be:
How is the "linking-pin" fixed? Counter screw/nut? Clue?

Any idea?

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Offline [NL] Marc van Erp

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 04:30:34 PM »
hello heinz,

If you will look into the minute of kuopio you will see that we had discussed that. We will bring tesla-tape with us so the linking-pins will not unscrewing.
We will use this tape because when you will use glue and you have to chance the pin than its not handy.
So we will use the tape.

Greetz.

Marc van Erp
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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 04:39:31 PM »
Hello Marc,

Okay, thanks again for your answer.

Aha, I understand  :)

But could you please explain me "Tesla-Tape"?
I never had heard that before.
Maybe you mean "Teflon-Tape"?

And sorry, you're right, as a fact it's in your minute.
I've read it, but still forgot this detail  :-[

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« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 04:51:31 PM by [DE] Heinz Wildgrube »

Offline [NL] Marc van Erp

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 06:02:39 PM »
hello heinz,

Its the same we can use teflon as well.

greetz.

Marc van Erp
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Offline [FR] Nicolas Prime

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Re: New clicking system drawing.
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 07:09:43 PM »
Thank you Marc for those details !!
But it seems that the "clicking system" file used by Heinz to make the "assembly.jpeg" is different than the one you gave to us as the final version... Could you please erase the post with wrong or old datas ? Few more questions:
  • How are we supposed to fix the upper parts on the clicking system ? Are we supposed to design it ourselves or is there a "common" solution ?
  • We will exchange the "upper parts + clicking system". In this case may we have the opportunity to modify the "clicking system plate" a little bit.
  • Are we supposed to buy the linking-pin ourselves or should we make a global order ?
I hope my questions are clear (not sure...)
Nicolas.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 04:10:07 PM by [FR] Nicolas Prime »